A Deceptive Homophobic Cult is Here

topic posted Mon, May 15, 2006 - 12:45 PM by  Samuel
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According to Falun Gong leader Master Li Hongzhi, homosexuality is the leading indicator of the depravity and regression of our society. In a poem, Li includes homosexuality as one of “the World’s Ten Evils” and he states: “homosexuality, licentious desires—dark heart, turning demonic.” [falundafa.org/book/eng/Ho...oc110877614] Li’s strongest words against gays come from a lecture in Switzerland. Homosexuality was one of the factors that led to the collapse of the Greek civilization, he said. Furthermore, “Homosexuals not only violate the standards that gods set for mankind, but also damage human society’s moral code. In particular, the impression it gives children will turn future societies into something demonic.” [www.falundafa.org/book/eng/...d1998.htm] Li describes a special kind of suffering for homosexuals. They will be made to undergo a particularly slow and painful annihilation: “That person is annihilated layer after layer at a rate that seems pretty rapid to us, but in fact it’s extremely slow in that time field. Over and over again, one is annihilated in an extremely painful way.” [www.falundafa.org/book/eng/...d1998.htm]

The Chinese government banned this group, a cult called by American cult experts, in 1999, since then these two authoritarian groups have been fighting each other. Since March 10, 2006, the Epoch Times run by the Falun Gong has accused the Chinese government of extracting organs from 6,000 live Falun Gong practitioners in an alleged concentration camp called Sujiatun run by the Liaoning Thrombus Medical Treatment Center. [www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-...83.html] But evidence shows that this charge is groundless.

On April 13, an official from the hospital in an interview stated that the hospital “lacks the required facilities to conduct organ transplants and has no basement to house the Falun Gong practitioners.”[www.chinadaily.com.cn/home/20...554.htm] Further more this hospital--Liaoning Thrombus Medical Treatment Center--is not a state owned company but one partly owned by a Malaysian company called Country Heights Health Sanctuary.[crc.gov.my/clinicalTria...synopsis.pdf] And during an official visit to China the Minister of Health of Malaysia visited the hospital in September, 2004. This information shows that the hospital could not have been used to house and extract organs from practitioners.

On April 14, 2006, US State Department released a statement [www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps...6/64589.htm] that "found no evidence that the site is being used for any function other than as a normal public hospital".

The posting Urgent!!! Please help by a Falun Gong practitioner here is aiming to smear its opponent and generate sympathy and support. Let’s not be used by this homophobic cult.
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Samuel
SF Bay Area
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    Re: A Deceptive Homophobic Cult is Here

    Mon, May 15, 2006 - 1:56 PM
    Falun Gong is definitely anti-Gay and anti-American. They are as hateful and bigoted as fundamentalist Christians.

    Here's an exerpt from a European lecture:

    I’m talking about the true situation of humankind here. You all know that Westerners don’t understand why Chinese people are still so reserved when it comes to relationships between men and women. Let me tell you that this is how humans should be. Sexual freedom, which has mixed the human races and muddled human ethics, is absolutely forbidden by gods. So as cultivators, you absolutely should not do that sort of thing. You may have a wife or a husband. This is the normal way of life for human beings. But you are committing a sin if you have sexual activity with someone who isn’t your husband or your wife. The gods in every upright religion of the East and West have emphasized this point strongly. When normalizing how humans should be, they discussed this very seriously. And there are other problems nowadays, such as organized crime, homosexuality, and the worship of violence. What we’ve mentioned are only phenomena, yet they reveal the state of society. People tolerate violence and indulge in it, they look up to mobsters, and they even worship the pirate leaders of the past who killed people and set fires. It means that people are no longer able to tell good from bad; they can no longer tell good from evil. What they worship are not righteous and good things, but bad things. Drug addicts and those morally bankrupt people with no temperance or discipline do whatever they want in society. Human values have been completely inverted.

    What I just discussed was in regards to the state of human society as a whole. Think about it, everyone: If gods don’t regard humans as human, then isn’t man in danger? As I just discussed, why were humans in different periods of civilization destroyed? Why does the Mayan culture no longer exist? One can see from the archeological artifacts how degenerate people were at that time. The Caucasians of the last civilization in the West—the ancestors of Caucasians—were the Ancient Greek race; not modern Greeks, but the race of the Ancient Greeks. There are very few people of this race. I’ve found that they are the white Indians of India. There are very few of them. Why was their civilization destroyed? Homosexual things have been found in the archeological artifacts and remains of ancient Greek civilization. The lifestyle at that time was very corrupt, degenerate, and extravagant. Wasn’t that the case? It was because they had progressed to the final stage. The last cycle of Caucasian civilization wasn’t like that in the beginning—the early stage of a human civilization certainly wouldn’t be that depraved—but when the civilization progressed to the later stages and became really depraved, gods saw that humans were no longer any good and thus destroyed them. The good people who were left began to evolve anew, and they became today’s Caucasians. Think about it: If humans continue to develop without inhibition like this and if gods no longer regard humans as human, that’s just terribly dangerous!

    www.falundafa.org/book/eng/...e1998a.htm
    • Re: A Deceptive Homophobic Cult is Here

      Wed, May 17, 2006 - 5:23 PM
      And the irony is fundamental Christians are eating this stuff up and linging up with Falun Gong.

      Don't they know Falun Gong teaches, in addition to homophobia and racial purity, that Jesus is a weak god that only can save white people (while Master Li who lives in Queens is a more powerful God that can save everyone)?

      Falun Gong/Epoch Times' recent media activity is obviousely politically motivated, in anticipation of Chinese leaders mid-April Stateside visit.
      • Re: A Deceptive Homophobic Cult is Here

        Thu, May 18, 2006 - 11:54 AM
        I see the Fulong Gong almost daily here in DC on the National Mall, around the Smithsonian begging the tourists for support. Their brochures are childlike in both form and content, and the NEVER say what they believe, only that the Chinese government persecutes them for no reason. Glad to hear I don't need to feel sorry for them.
  • Re: A Deceptive Homophobic Cult is Here

    Mon, February 9, 2009 - 7:33 PM
    I don't think it’s fair to call Falun Gong a homophobic cult when that small excerpt about homosexuality was raised only a few times out of the 48 other Fa lectures conferences around the world. It was a question raised by someone to Master Li Hongzhi. Rarely Falun Gong talks about homosexuality. Homosexuals are allowed to practice Falun Gong too, but homosexuality is considered a bad behaviour and discouraged.

    People who practice Falun Gong or Falun Dafa set high morals standards for themselves. Besides the 48 different lectures, the main book Zhuan Falun is the principle book that is studied often; you can probe the entire book but you won't find anything homophobic there. You'll find the book also teaches people to be good by observing the universes nature, they consider to be Truthfulness, Benevolence, Forbearance. There are over 100 million practitioners around the world and the only place it is being repressed is in China by the CCP. The practice spread peacefully over 7 years in 1992 before the persecution. The practice brought good health to Chinese people; saving 3270 Yuan in medical expenses per person per year for the state according to a survey. The media and public had high opinions of Falun Gong. Officials made the biggest group of the Falun Gong practitioners (30.8%). The second biggest is people in scientific and technological, medical, and educational fields (27.7%). Two groups together make up 58.5%. High level Communist officials were also practicing. It’s strange that only after the persecution were there so many problems and people attacking and defaming Falun Gong. www.clearwisdom.net/emh/down...vey2.html

    The organ harvesting in Sujiatun is based on a 45-page report on an independent investigation by former Canadian Secretary of State (Asia Pacific) David Kilgour and international human rights lawyer David Matas that showed supporting claims of organ harvesting taking place in Sujiatun. Calls were made to hospitals in the country asking for kidneys and other organs from Falun Gong practitioners, saying practitioners have healthy bodies. Some hospitals responded that they could get them from a day to a week, when in other countries it takes months to years. organharvestinvestigation.net/
    www.youtube.com/watch

    I don't think it’s hard for the Chinese Communist Party to cover its tracks after being discovered. The CCP is capable of many things. It's caused millions of Chinese people to suffer in the Cultural Revolution, destroying 5000 years of Chinese traditional culture. It didn't hesitate to kill hundreds of students in the Tiananmen Square massacre. Now they are frightened by so many Falun Gong practitioners believing and following Truthfulness, Benevolence, and Forbearance. To the CCP, maintaining power is more important than human life. To maintain power they target people's minds, they want to be able to control people's minds through propaganda and the media. Jiang Zemin once said that the media should be the mouth piece for the CCP in overseas interviews. The CCP staged the self-immolation incident in Tiananmen Square and used the media to incite hatred towards Falun Gong around the world for public support in persecuting Falun Gong under the pretence of it being a cult. It’s pretty obvious why the CCP always blocks outside media and internet from entering China and even putting heavy restriction on foreign journalists from entering, they want to keep the Chinese people and the world from knowing the truth. The book The Nine Commentaries fully exposes the evil nature of the CCP. 49 million people have already quit or denounced the CCP. At the beginning some people might have wonder if there is something wrong with Falun Gong. How come it is being persecuted? They understand it the wrong way, it's because it's persecuted by such an evil communist regime.
    www.youtube.com/watch

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